I don't know if I'll make this 'segment' a regular feature of this blog, after all, this blog is updated infrequently, irregularly, and sporadic and unpredictably at best, but if it works out - and it well may, I might just do this a bit more often (though probably lumping a whole bunch of possible fights - as if it were a 'fight-card' of sorts since it would make for more of an update).
So here it is folks:
I ASK YOU - Who would win in a fight if this were ever to occur:
Phil Anselmo or Corey Taylor?
I would have tried to find the 'toughest' looking photos of both, but not only is that too gay, it requires too much effort, so page-1-ing off of Google Image Search here are the best right now.
Phil Anselmo in sporting his trademark mic-ing habits.
Corey Taylor - on the left before he puts his makeup on, on the right looking more 'Phil-ish'
I suppose I could put up a poll, but I'd rather you just enter the name and reason(s) for his rank/level of 'asskickability' over the other guy.
I kinda like both guys (obviously, not really that into them nowadays, but we're talking trading fisticuffs here) but I'd have to put my money on Corey.
The guy's a screamer (like myself, except I'm heavier, harder, louder, more demonic sounding, and have surpassed him along will all the other roarers out there) which says a lot, or a little, but just really loud.
The guy talks about killing people like it's his way of telling them he loves them.
I could picture a breakfast table conversation with his wife/girlfriend/groupey/whathaveyou:
Wifey: Hi Corey, did you sleep well?Not sure exactly what that meant, but the guy is about as coherent as the above snippet describes him. Maybe it's the fact he has a girly name, which forces him to try to act uber-manly even more so than most alpha-male aggresso types, I don't know but that could well account for it.
Corey: I'm going to kill the fucking living death out of your vagina and wear it as a necktie to church.
On the other hand, about the toughest I've seen Phil Anselmo behave is when he's either giving a 'White Pride' Speech, or bullying some twelve year old kid for throwing something at him during a live performance.
Corey is (was?) a demon straight out from hell, a few Kuttlefish-of-Cthulhu-for-a-penis jokes shy of Oderus Urungus (yes they've been feuding too). Phil is more sorta your average messed up drug addicted alcoholic trying to clean up his life and somehow humiliate himself on camera and beg forgiveness after his friends get killed and his wife leaves him.
I'm not too crazy about either guys band(s) that much anymore. Slipknot was incredible, I had 4 records by them:
- Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat.
- (Self-Titled - Digi-Pak Re-Release)
- Iowa
- Volume 3: The Subliminal Verses
Mr. Burns: Smithers...Slipknots "Vol. 3" I'm sorry to say, was barely passable for a band that released "Iowa". It had it's good moments, and some of the percussive sounds had a different timbre to them, albeit loud, heavy in their own way, is if they were mic-ed in 'mono' as opposed to 'stereo' (another debate all in itself!) but some of the things they tried, like the guitar solo on 'Pulse of the Maggots' failed, came off as silly (it would have sounded better, if they just silenced all the other instruments during the solo) and would have been fine if it were on the self-titled record, as the band was probably still 'finding their sound' so to speak, but they had most of that nailed down with "Iowa."
Smithers: Yes Mr. Burns?
Mr Burns: Bring me this band.
Then again, I'm not sure just how scientific the 'recording' process is. While the results should be 'reproducible', I believe the band themselves originally stated that Iowa was a more 'experimental' record for them.
Another part about that record, that is both good and bad, is that Corey starts singing about girls/women he knows in his life. Good that he can go there, bad that he has to do it when he could be talking about killing people and shit, like he normally does when he's happy.
I heard some songs off of "All Hope Is Gone", I like what I heard, more reminiscent of Iowa, though again, I'll have to say it'll probably sit at #2 as Iowa is probably Knots 'Black Album' or their equivalent 'Master of Puppets'.
By the way, I hate (post-"Garage inc.") Metallica too.
I'll be honest with you, I haven't been a Pantera fan since 2002. Not that I started disliking Old-Panty, just that I got into better bands (actually with me it was an entire sub-genre shift) and admittedly a whole lot more Power, Prog and Black Metal - I guess once you go BlindGuardian, It's hard to turn back!
Ironically, amongst most of the Pantera fans that I personally know (not many) most of them like the more 'groove laden' sound they're more famous for, I actually happen to like some of their 'quieter' songs more. I don't know why that is. I guess unless it's immediately 'catchy', I tend to right away go for the more 'obscure' stuff that a band makes.
And I'll say just one more thing, recently 2007-2009, the only 'Pantera' I've been getting into, is the early 'Glam' oriented Pantera. I know that probably makes me gay, but I'm not sure if it's just a phase, as I've been doing the '80's glam' thing since 2004.
I don't know, once you start liking retro, it all goes downhill from there. To me Depeche Mode, while more DarkWave/Synth-Pop Rock, is timeless. I can still listen to Violator, frequently and despite it's attempt of going from simplicity to complexity and then back again ('World in My Eyes' Vs. 'Enjoy the Silence') and not think of it as 'retro' or '80's-ish' trying to look into the future and make futile attempts towards creating futuristic music. I suppose that's because much of their music is catchy, radio friendly, etc. But with them, I have the opposite effect in that I can't get into their more obscure (and quieter) material that easily, as I can with Pantera.
But if it's not the more quiet (acoustic guitar intro) songs of Pantera, or the older 'glam' oriented perhaps pre-Phil material, I'm just not into it anymore and haven't been for almost a decade!
I had sorta the same case with Sepultura, another band I was sort of into, and then Max Calvera just kind of became really trite to my ears. Side issue, but I'm not sure how many Pantera Vs. Sepultura threads there are out there...I'm not sure if anyone has cared to ask. But I'm gonna posit that little battle too!
<>Update: Just now, I googled, and turns out there's already some debate, however small. But it seems that it depends most WHERE you ask this question (as where may quantitatively decide the amount of WHOs that share the same opinion in concentrated regions).
Over here Sepultura seems to win the numbers game:
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=41&threadid=73938
And over here it seems to be Pantera:
http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/325426.aspx
Brazil Vs. USA scenario perhaps? Portuguese Brazilians favoring Sepultura, American and Spanish types favoring Pantera? I don't know, it's a stupid question, but somebody's got to ask it.
The point, which I seem to have completely lost track of, is that while I sometimes thought of Taylor as 'Anselmo Version 2.0', in someways more sensible, in other ways, I could see him kicking the other guys ass too.
So again, whose tougher (not asking for who makes better music, or who you like more, etc.) and say in an MMA-Rules Cage-Fight, who'd win?
Obviously neither guy would want to fight by the rules, so in that situation, who'd win in a ring? And who'd have better chances of winning in a bar-fight?
I still say Corey, then again, I've never made a size comparison between the two? Taylor has since shaving off his head, gotten into shape, and even added a few pounds to expand those muscle fibers. Anselmo on the other hand has something of a bad back in more recent times.
Part of me WANTS to lean towards Phil, but logic is pointing in Corey's direction.
That's just my opinion. Who takes this one if it ever happens?
